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[I-G-D]

Okay, listen up... This is a really good question. It's been haunting me for years.

 

If person A (it doesn't matter if he's a guy or a girl) got cloned, and person B (who is person A's clone) got born, would it be person A's son/daughter or brother/sister? And why? I have a ton of arguments for both sides, but I want to hear your

opinion.

 

Even though the situation is totally unrealistic, it's still fun to think about it.

 

Some extra brain exercise... So let's start.

[Lovatic]

they would be cousins

[I-G-D]

They'd be related, that's for sure, but what would the relation be like? It must be defined...

[Lady ita]

they wouldn't be brothers, just clons

 

btw, they will be like twins born in different times :S

Are twins brothers even if they grow in different environment? In that point of view they will be like brothers.

[I-G-D]

Yeah, that is true. But...

 

If you look at it as if a parent is a person who provides genetic material for the creation of another being, then that clone has one DNA provider... And that person it the parent. Not a father, not a mother, but a parent... Single parent. So if you look at it like this, then person A is person B's parent, and person B is his/her child.

[Lady ita]

mmmm yes, why not?

 

But they won't be like convetional parents, who apport 50% of genetic info and have a previous step of recombination.

 

Btw, for me family is based in social relations between the members, not in genetic relation.

[Zammuel]

Imagine the sex.

[I-G-D]

Yeah, it is based on social relations, but here I'm talking about pure genetic relations.

 

The term "parent" also applies to asexual reproduction which some other organisms are capable of doing... So it's a correct term, if you look it at it like this.

[I-G-D]

Imagine the sex.

 

Between Person A and Person B?

[Lady ita]

Imagine the sex.

 

Would you have sex with your clone?

[I-G-D]

Having sex with your clone would be incest.

[Marcomannius]

They would be clones of the original donor. It can't really be son or a daughter, because so far it has never been observed in nature that the son/daughter is born with non-mixed DNA, in other words, the very definition of the word sibling is suggesting two DNA's mixed up in order to produce a third, original DNA, that has never ever been produced before. You could argue that technically a child is non the less a son/daughter of their mother, but if there is no DNA of her own, even in trace, it would be more fair to say she was a host, a surrogate mother... but not a "real mother". That's just my own opinion

[I-G-D]

This is when a person gets born from your DNA, but nobody else's. Like, a copy of you. 1 parent, sort of...

 

SciFi way of thinking.

[Steevca]

Depends on how you make it : 

- Taking your DNA and implanting it into your own mother's womb? Sibling.

- Asexual cell division? Offspring.

- Totally artificial grow-a-clone-in-a-jar chemistry kit? Possession.

 

But i firmly believe that you two are not actually in any kind of relation.

That clone is actually you,you can't be a sibling or an offspring of yourself.

Edited by Steevca, 18 August 2013 - 01:42 AM.

[Lord Moe]

Imagine the sex.

 

The guy in the middle is ~2000-2500 years old.  The two girls are his 18 year old clones.  The girls talked him into sex.

[Zammuel]

Between Person A and Person B?

 

 

Would you have sex with your clone?

 

 

Having sex with your clone would be incest.

yes to all of these.

[Maxwell Wolf]

This is when a person gets born from your DNA, but nobody else's. Like, a copy of you. 1 parent, sort of...

 

SciFi way of thinking.

I read an article about this, it wasn't science fiction, it says that in 10 million years there will be no men , only women .. statistically speaking women can conceive without sperms but the new born will be a girl thats right now probability of 1 in trillion but in 10 million years those chances will increase until menkind ( or in this case womenkind) will need men no more LOL ..  

[Flaco Jimenez]

The only reason for a clone would be for the illegal harvesting of body parts to sell to the Chinese. 

[Panis]

 statistically speaking women can conceive without sperms..  

 

You've been reading too much bible.

[ahava3233]

They'd simply be clones...it is a different type of relation altogether.  However, a clone could act as either a child or a sibling in a relationship depending on the circumstances (in the same way adoptive children call their guardians parents or the way people call the children of their stepmother/stepfather their brothers and sisters).

 

IE: Parent - Jango Fett, Boba Fett

Brother/Sister: Identical Twins (Technically clones by definition )