PLEASE! Don't change the training at all! Ok for the "new-players-bonus" BUT NOTHING ELSE
New User Experience In A Testing Phase [Edit Day 2199]
#21
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:01 PM
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#22
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:03 PM
v2 killed eRepublik, did you forget?
#23
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:04 PM
Dear eRepublik administration,
Interface changes and helping new players reach few thousands of strength in a couple of days won't change the fact that there is too many people leaving this game. You are probably aware of global decline of population and (which is more important to you) that this game is becoming less and less attractive to old players in community. Erepublik administration should implement new features which can be found in several other games of similar type. Although it may seem like plagiarism, implementing those features would benefit more than just visual improvment from both sides - as well for commercial factor but also for large community since this is the largest game of this type and a lot of players dont want to quit but they simply do because of general apathy amongst players. Making changes about overkill, returning something similar to v1 wall in battles, making public who is mentor, moderator, admin and who has contact with administration, providing API/statistics, making players important and care by using more surveys or some community body which would be in constant contact with administration, changing media mogul and so on...
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#24
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:04 PM
Congratulations you have found the way to make the game "heavier" and more time consuming at the same time.
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#25
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:05 PM
Dear eRepublik administration,
Interface changes and helping new players reach few thousands of strength in a couple of days won't change the fact that there is too many people leaving this game. You are probably aware of global decline of population and (which is more important to you) that this game is becoming less and less attractive to old players in community. Erepublik administration should implement new features which can be found in several other games of similar type. Although it may seem like plagiarism, implementing those features would benefit more than just visual improvment from both sides - as well for commercial factor but also for large community since this is the largest game of this type and a lot of players dont want to quit but they simply do because of general apathy amongst players. Making changes about overkill, returning something similar to v1 wall in battles, making public who is mentor, moderator, admin and who has contact with administration, providing API/statistics, making players important and care by using more surveys or some community body which would be in constant contact with administration, changing media mogul and so on...
This
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#26
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:06 PM
As I said in other related topic:
Sorry, but the "bad" Plato is bad because he doesn't apply structural changes in the game (e.g. to fight against the overproduction that killed the economical module -today those events develop the same function now the market BOT made before- or to make a military module that, without go back to the V1 or V2, have a balance between power and strategy). The last measure respecting the topic I really applauded was the Work Tax and well... as you can see, the idea wasn't well sold, so until the moment that implementation is a failure.
And after to see the changes all of you propose for the end of 2013, putting aside the good measure of not giving gold to users under level 10 (and I think it should be at level 20), they are more like visual changes than structural ones.
The tournament achieve the purpose of to reactivate the game (that's always good, of course), but it should be an event properly said, not an admins necessity to buoy a sinking ship...
And I will complement this: your proposed update isn't solving the problem of the economical module overproduction or the problem of the military module based only in power and no strategy. All those are structural problems and all of you are just ignoring them.
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#27
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:06 PM
If we train every 17 hours, that means that we're gonna have to be online at every given hour... At some point. Even during sleeping hours. I don't see what's wrong with the old day change to day change system. If you implement this, then you're basically making this game playable only for no-lifers. I spend a lot of time on this game, but I'm NOT gonna wake up at 4h AM just to get Strength.
This seems like a total fail. My advice for you is to keep the old system when it comes to training. Working is a different thing, but training is something that shouldn't be modified.
Who said anything about 17 hours? You will be able to train just like now, once a day.
#28
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:07 PM
Who said anything about 17 hours? You will be able to train just like now, once a day.
There is an article of a new player showing these updates. The free training is every minute and the payed one (or "elit" as stated) is every 16 hours.
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#29
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:08 PM
i have tested it its really great
#30
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:08 PM
In my opnion 5 strength every minute is actually very good, not only for new players but also for older players to get more strength. Especially for D4 where you have players which have like 20-30-40k more strength than you, with this you would be able to gain more strength and minimize the difference or in other words have a bigger chance for a BH etc. . If you start training with all buildings at max level in D4, you will never have a chance against older players, unless you're lucky.
LOL,
difference of strength will be there, 5 str/m doesn't mean that old players won't use this featue
#31
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:08 PM
Wait, are you seriously expecting me to believe this?
If we train every 17 hours, that means that we're gonna have to be online at every given hour... At some point. Even during sleeping hours. I don't see what's wrong with the old day change to day change system. If you implement this, then you're basically making this game playable only for no-lifers. I spend a lot of time on this game, but I'm NOT gonna wake up at 4h AM just to get Strength.
This seems like a total fail. My advice for you is to keep the old system when it comes to training. Working is a different thing, but training is something that shouldn't be modified.
As far as I know it's "You will be able to train again in 17 hours" as the day change will occur in 17 hours, not you will be able to train every 17 hours. I guess there's a bit of a difference
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#32
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:09 PM
There is an article of a new player showing these updates. The free training is every minute and the payed one (or "elit" as stated) is every 16 hours.
You mean this? http://s3.picofile.c...n_with_gold.png
That's because there are 16 hours and 25 minutes to daychange.
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#33
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:10 PM
i see no problem with newbies getting biger strength, it was so in V1 and can be so in Vxy
but you have to make it fair
for instance, a noobs SS medal should be at 2500 (since he is recieving more strength, and you should keep the oldfag SS medal on 250 like it is today
and for the love of god, keep training and work a 1perday thing
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#34
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:11 PM
In my opnion 5 strength every minute is actually very good, not only for new players but also for older players to get more strength. Especially for D4 where you have players which have like 20-30-40k more strength than you, with this you would be able to gain more strength and minimize the difference or in other words have a bigger chance for a BH etc. . If you start training with all buildings at max level in D4, you will never have a chance against older players, unless you're lucky.
What about the players who've spent years fully training, i.e. paying Gold to fully train (like me)? Everything's worthless now? There must be a system so that the strongest players remain the strongest, just without that big difference. I have 56 K Strength and if some newb starts training non-stop, all the time literally, no sleep, he/she can get really close to me pretty soon, because I'm definitely not gonna give up sleep for a game.
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#35
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:11 PM
i see no problem with newbies getting biger strength, it was so in V1 and can be so in Vxy
but you have to make it fair
for instance, a noobs SS medal should be at 2500 (since he is recieving more strength, and you should keep the oldfag SS medal on 250 like it is today
and for the love of god, keep training and work a 1perday thing
+1
#36
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:11 PM
LOL,
difference of strength will be there, 5 str/m doesn't mean that old players won't use this featue
Ofcourse they will, but it will depend how much time you have and if you have nothing to do whole day, that can be a lot of strength, unless there is gonna be a daily limit.
Still better than now when everyone gets the same str., with this I might get more str. per day than some older / stronger player.
#37
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:12 PM
WE WANNA MORE STRENGHT,AND LESS EXPIRIENCE POINTS
Ivek
#38
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:12 PM
Not going to give up sleep for strength. Don't change it. 1 time per day is great!
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#39
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:14 PM
I hope those changes come soon the old players also need something new.
#40
Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:17 PM
What about the players who've spent years fully training, i.e. paying Gold to fully train (like me)? Everything's worthless now? There must be a system so that the strongest players remain the strongest, just without that big difference. I have 56 K Strength and if some newb starts training non-stop, all the time literally, no sleep, he/she can get really close to me pretty soon, because I'm definitely not gonna give up sleep for a game.
Yes, but is it fair for a newb even if he starts training with max training, that someone has 60k more str. than him and they get the same str. per day? It will be impossible to catch you, not to mention he will have no chance against stronger players by the time he gets to the D4. Unless they are going to add new divisions or change how divison system works - replace experience level with strength for example.
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