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[Hades III]

and if you really think i'm the brainwahsed one, prove that we took their land, prove we behave to the arabs as second rate citizens and find me groups of Israeli arabs who want to live in the palestinian authority, and more than all prove Israel's nazism, with no pictures, websites to other websites and anything else, just your words and facts you'v brought.

Yes, for the sake of arguing with you, I am going to buy myself a plane ticket and travel to Israel/Palestine and see things for myself. Then, I will post here.

Just you wait.

Edited by Hades III, 15 November 2013 - 09:32 PM.

[RoaiTG]

or you could find a proofs

[Hades III]

or you could find a proofs

"Finding proofs on the internet is like trying to find an honest Jew, it's impossible." - Anthony Hopkins

Edited by Hades III, 15 November 2013 - 09:47 PM.

[RoaiTG]

find statistics, law, indexes, constitution, announcements, maps, quotes and etc.

 

and stop listening to people like Anthony Hopkins.

Edited by RoaiTG, 15 November 2013 - 09:53 PM.

[Hades III]

find statistics, law, indexes, constitution, announcements, maps, quotes and etc.

 

Yes. I also plan to major in Jewish History. I'll definitely get back to you in few years.

 

And say that to his face, bro.

 

[RoaiTG]

see you in few years then

[Hades III]

see you in few years then

 

I just droped out, there was too much bullshit.

 

I'm going to study Palestine history, it has much less propaganda.

[bonjik]

see you in few years then

 

Dude I had the same argument with him a few months ago ... Theirs no chance he would give you a real answer.

[shadowukcs]

It appears my plan to throw a few penny's on the ground has worked. The place seems to be flooding with jews now....

[Hades III]

Dude I had the same argument with him a few months ago ... Theirs no chance he would give you a real answer.

 

Yeah, I remember you losing an argument too.

 

I guess your inability to debate somehow makes me a "troll".

[RoaiTG]

ok now i'm sure hades is trolling, no one is that stupid.

[bonjik]

Yeah, I remember you losing an argument too.

 

I guess your inability to debate somehow makes me a "troll".

 

My argument were full of facts your's where just the words "You kill Palestine" , "You steal land" , "Jews are greedy" , "Hitler".

 

 

ok now i'm sure hades is trolling, no one is that stupid.

 

No , he is just extremely stupid ....

[Hades III]

ok now i'm sure hades is trolling, no one is that stupid.

 
 
It only took you few days to figure that out
 
 

My argument were full of facts your's where just the words "You kill Palestine" , "You steal land" , "Jews are greedy" , "Hitler".

 
Since I was just messing with you I didn't need to actually post any facts, but the sad part is that you were really trying to act smart while in reality you posted worst facts that me.
 

No , he is just extremely stupid ....

And there it is, Bonjik reverted to his 12 year old form where he has to resort to insults to make himself look superior. Want a lollipop?

[RoaiTG]

ok let's see, what are my worst facts?

[bonjik]

ok let's see, what are my worst facts?

 

That part was directed to me ... for example when he satid Jews stole the land were Israel was founded from Palestinians I showed him old maps that indicates their were Jewish settlements here all trough history like this 1 :

 

[Hades III]

That part was directed to me ... for example when he satid Jews stole the land were Israel was founded from Palestinians I showed him old maps that indicates their were Jewish settlements here all trough history like this 1 :
 

And I guess Mongols have right to claim large parts of Eurasia, you know, they used to rape around those areas.

Edited by Hades III, 16 November 2013 - 02:48 PM.

[bonjik]

And I guess Mongols have right to claim large parts of Eurasia, you know, they used to rape around those areas.

 

Theirs a country called Mongolia idiot

[shadowukcs]

Theirs a country called Mongolia idiot

 

 

Yes, but their empire once stretched until Europe.

 

If we follow your logic of Jews living in, what is currently known as, Israel and the claim that they therefore that land is theirs, then by that very same logic the mongols should own half of russia and Europe.

 

 

Since you like maps. what about this map?

 

 

 

 

Or maybe any comments on the fact that you're building a new "apartheid wall"? Outdoing the Berlin wall both in height and lenght?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or maybe any comment on the fact that you've build the world's biggest prison camp, called gaza, and are currently in the process of slowly genociding an entire population by denying them access to food, proper medicines, work, electricity, building materials and litteraly buldozing any attempt at an economy or an infrastructure they attempt to build?

 

 

 

Please don't kid yourself into thinking that you are the good guys. Maybe your countries propaganda pictures it that way, but in the eyes of the majority of the world's citizens you are the new nazi's.

[bonjik]

Yes, but their empire once stretched until Europe.

 

If we follow your logic of Jews living in, what is currently known as, Israel and the claim that they therefore that land is theirs, then by that very same logic the mongols should own half of russia and Europe.

 

 

Since you like maps. what about this map?

 

 

 

 

Or maybe any comments on the fact that you're building a new "apartheid wall"? Outdoing the Berlin wall both in height and lenght?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or maybe any comment on the fact that you've build the world's biggest prison camp, called gaza, and are currently in the process of slowly genociding an entire population by denying them access to food, proper medicines, work, electricity, building materials and litteraly buldozing any attempt at an economy or an infrastructure they attempt to build?

 

 

 

Please don't kid yourself into thinking that you are the good guys. Maybe your countries propaganda pictures it that way, but in the eyes of the majority of the world's citizens you are the new nazi's.

 

Your map logic is flawed , at 1946 the region wasn't ruled by Palestinians.

 

1)Lets give it a look from the current era to the past : Israel -- > British Empire -- > Ottoman -- > Muslims -- > Crusaders -- > Muslims -- > Byzantines -- > Romans -- > Jews -- > Alexander the Great -- > Persia -- > Babylon -- > Assyria -- > Jews.

 

As you can see their was never a Palestinian regime nor they ever had a nation they are most likely the descendents of wandering tribes and slaves, forced laborers that were brought to the region by the Ottomans.

 

2)Your logic itself is flawed , you claim who rules the regions now should keep it in the Mongol case then how the Israeli one is different for you ?

 

3)Gaza isn't ruled by Israel its ruled by Hamas , and we cant siege it since its bordering Egypt ... The fact they live now and are able to shoot missiles over Israel just proves they are a live , and have no food or medicine shortage.

 

4)Arabs in Israel have more rights then they have in any Arabic or Muslim country you can check that.

 

5)Fences ? Those were constructed as a result of terrorist attacks not only on Jews but over all none Muslims , yes that include Cristian and Druze people.

 

6)Yes I love maps they help people to understand but you have to use REAL maps , all 4 of yours contain false information.

 

Is Israel really the so called "Biggest Problem of the World" in your eyes ? To me it looks you Muslims are the greedy ones .... All that territory but you want to devour 1 tiny nation(and your so dumb that you cant succeed even in that )

[RoaiTG]

Yes, but their empire once stretched until Europe.

 

yea, mongols came from asia to europe, Jews were ethnickly invented thousands of years ago in Judea

 

If we follow your logic of Jews living in, what is currently known as, Israel and the claim that they therefore that land is theirs, then by that very same logic the mongols should own half of russia and Europe.

 

and by the muslims logic the balkans and south spain should be muslim, since the muslims took over it once from natives and then lost those lands

 

Since you like maps. what about this map?

 

 

 

 those maps make no sense, for few reasons.

 

1. in 1946 the palestinians did'nt reconise themselves as people, to called themselves as part of the grand arab people, since they really were arab migrators, between 1872 (a little bit after beginning of zionism) to 1942 they had population growth of 1200% (from 100K to 1200K).

 

2. The Arab people did'nt accept any british offer, so basically the arabs never got any right on the land, even after 1948 according to the international law the land was Israeli, the only land they'v got is transjordan (nowdays Jordan).

 

3. the maps here count druze and bedouin as palestinians, meanwhile they are more Israeli then palestinians (and after so many centuries the muslims slaughtered those minorities i don't blame them).

 

4. in 1948-1967 there still was'snt palestine, Jordan and Egypt took Judea& Samaria and Gaza strip, and by the international law it was israeli land under occupation.

 

5. the PA was founded 20-30 years ago

 

None of those map mean anything, true or relevant.

 

 

Or maybe any comments on the fact that you're building a new "apartheid wall"? Outdoing the Berlin wall both in height and lenght?

 

 

 

The Barrier Wall was built during the second intifanda, and it's a border between Israel to the Palestinian Authority which is their authonomy, palestinians can pass the wall, it's was made to stop terror and check who comes to Israeli territory, so it would be possible to prevent terror, sometimes it takes few hours to get promition to cross, but by that logic many borders as like turkey-armenia is an apartheid wall.

 

 

Or maybe any comment on the fact that you've build the world's biggest prison camp, called gaza, and are currently in the process of slowly genociding an entire population by denying them access to food, proper medicines, work, electricity, building materials and litteraly buldozing any attempt at an economy or an infrastructure they attempt to build?

 

Gaza strip is not prison camp, and its population grows and grows, the funny fact is their regime kills far more people in gaza than Israel and you blame us for genocide, gaza strip has two borders, Israel and Egypt for the simple reason, it was Egyptian region that Egypt gave up, Israel provides to gaza strip electric for free, medicials and all they need, the aid they are getting is crazy, and Israel closed its border with them since their regime is terror regime that tries to commit terror inside Israel all the time, when they stop making terror they won't be terrorist, It's not a prison, it's failing terrorist regime living by aid and help of 'the infidels', and the PA does'nt want gaza strip back.

 

 

Please don't kid yourself into thinking that you are the good guys. Maybe your countries propaganda pictures it that way, but in the eyes of the majority of the world's citizens you are the new nazi's.

 

really? let's see the israeli and the palestinian convention

 

Israel: "THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex;"

 

Palestinian Convention: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

 

so you belive all history, the scientific method, the common sense, and the west is propoganda and lie, everything except hamas's claims and national socialism, very selfish of you.