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#41 Bohemond4

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:41 PM

No more empires, no point in invading.

 

No point fighting.


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#42 cc1432

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:51 PM

they will have more rank points too ???

admins this is unfair...

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#43 NikiDelliColli

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:51 PM

big and rich empires hiring lot of mercenaries with Battle Orders, against small and poor conquered state mede of freedom fighters. seems reasonable indeed.

i bet travel tickets and tickets factories will be reintroduced to allow "freedom fighters" to travel in numbers without spending a lot of money.



#44 Chuchi

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:55 PM

I guess they amount of determination points should be checked and improved/nerfed over time to match the benefits of being an empire (and get the tax collection).

I like the roleplay component the feature will give to the game.

 

BUT, eSpain is a Kingdom.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:59 PM

Interesting,we will see how it turns out in the end

First the question is how big determination bonus,is it so big that 20 RL player country can beat 1000 RL player countries?

If it so then there will be no need anymore to make Babybooms.Also game can stuck into stalemate if keeping regions will be impossible anymore.No serious wars or anything everybody just sitting at their core regions.

Well depends, how fast does determination grow but more importantly how fast it goes back to 0. it might be that is safer to attack with regions unoccupied which have 0 determination :).


Edited by cc1432, 19 November 2013 - 10:05 PM.

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#46 Bohemias

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:02 PM

Question: is determination global variable or is it a distinct variable for each oppressor ( a region has x determination vs Poland but 0 vs Serbia since Serbia never owned that region ) ? :D

 

 

from what i understand it will be the same. you will see what you currently see. But the dmg counted in the BAR (dominations) will be multiplied by the determination factor. So again no real transparency. cause we will not be able to see the real dmg done in the battle.

 

I wasn't clear, sorry. What I would like to know is if we will have access how the determination will be calculated. What formula it will be used?



#47 cc1432

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:06 PM

I wasn't clear, sorry. What I would like to know is if we will have access how the determination will be calculated. What formula it will be used?

They didn't said yet, but they said that it is proportional to the nr. of days of occupation, which means a simple regression on a sample in the 1st week will provide us with the right answer. I don't think it will be smth very complicated.


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#48 pacifyer

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:46 PM

Why USA has so many core regions, and full bonus just with them? Why other countries have only ONE region?

 

Same number of core regions and bonus for all!


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#49 Cowboy Chris

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:08 PM

Hell yea!

Yea Hell !


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#50 tarasino

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 12:12 AM

Arigato gozaimasu.



#51 Yamisuke

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 12:51 AM

I want the City-State :D

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#52 Fosite

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 01:27 AM

To me this update sounds like it will still allow big nations to conquer others, but they will now have to fight harder plan better, while at the same time even very small nations are now going to have a chance not to be perma wiped. So im actually hopeful this will solve some of the issues that small nations have been having while at the same time not preventing large nations from still taking allot of territories, and in both cases long term planning would be the key.



#53 Aries Prime

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:52 AM

Change economic model :)



#54 Joey_18

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:10 AM

champagne-ardennes : ocupation of 564 days

bourgogne : 434

loire valley : 525

pays de la loire 483

emilia romana (italia) : 663 days

all german regions under polish ocupation : more than 500 days

 

 

- we have lot of regions to see if determination will be useful or TWO too much strong ^^

 

- Last updates just killed little countries and it's boring for us and for strong countries who has nothing to do now, SO this update will maybe be a really great thing for players. :P



#55 Vehairpe

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:34 AM

can we have the formulas that calculate the different bonuses, to know how it works ?


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#56 BinaryMind

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 10:50 AM

Please, just take us back to the days of true strategy and tactics.

Bring back retreat.

Bring back having to move properly across the world to fight.

Bring back all the things that made this game fun back in v1.

Sign!


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#57 xEric171x

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 02:58 PM

Is the bonus actually working today?

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#58 Dacicus Maximus

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 04:17 PM

Hungarian Empire finally materializing. 



#59 MuMed

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 04:22 PM

How to see whether the country is an Empire or not ?

How to see Country Power points ?


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#60 Enrique 10

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 04:28 PM

My Gift please!!!






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