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#21 Manuel III El Exiliado

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:13 PM

The new industry will not allow you to work as manager.

 

At last. After more than 3 years of people claiming you to stop the WaM, you have listen to us.
 

Congratulations.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

Are aware that the manager not being able to work the only way to compete with the prices in the market as a producer of raw is a Q5?. Not even own production to other raws will be more convenient to buy because the market probably.



#23 Petrica Somalezu

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:19 PM

WTF!

 

The new Houses will act both as Energy Centers and Energy Recovery boosters.

 

+50 energy bar

 

and

 

+50 energy recovery every 6 min?

 

Its alright?

 

Only Q6 and Q7 houses will give a small Energy Recovery bonus. From Q1 to Q5, you get more maximum Energy but no extra recovery.


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#24 Jussi Putin Jernkuuk

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:29 PM

I think it's wrong to have 5 different types of HRM-companies. Since you can't WAM in them, it's obvious that only granite quarries can be profitable because of the salary you have to pay. People that buy the other types will be pissed off.


Edited by Jussi SD Jernkuuk, 21 July 2014 - 04:41 PM.

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#25 Rusto

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:32 PM

Allow WAM in them or put q7 tomorrow.  Without  energy recover they worthless.


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#26 taulen

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:40 PM

So from now on, all employees wil produce houses, and all WAM will be producing the rest ...

And a 100 energy recovery extra house will cost 600 just in salaries, and than another 600-1000 in materials.

So in the end, it would suprise me if it ends up under 2000 in the beginning, and that is 10g for 7 days, for only 100 energy extra to save up, no extra energy recovery per 6min...

 

Quality 6 and 7 will need to come quite quickly for people to start investing in houses I think.


Edited by taulen, 21 July 2014 - 04:43 PM.

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#27 Alfagrem

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:44 PM

So, Q3 in a nation with all the bonuses.......

 

20 workers for 1 house on £40 a day,

Req's 80 workers on £40 a day to supply the RM,

 

Q3 base cost is £4,000 or 20G for an extra 100energy a day for 7 days. (700 energy)

 

 

Alternatives being waiting 30mins for that extra energy or buying some EB's which are currently priced at 15.4G for 1,000 Energy



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:46 PM

Oh wow, yeah forgot about salaries for the hrm, oh wow, this makes less and less sense, haha


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:50 PM

But is it 4000 per worker, or 4000 total ?



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:55 PM

I think I miss the part that explains the recovery values for each of the houses.


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#31 Panterion

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:04 PM

Only Q6 and Q7 houses will give a small Energy Recovery bonus. From Q1 to Q5, you get more maximum Energy but no extra recovery.

So in this moment house industry is totally unprofitable... gj ;)



#32 Jussi Putin Jernkuuk

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:20 PM

So, Q3 in a nation with all the bonuses.......

 

20 workers for 1 house on £40 a day,

Req's 80 workers on £40 a day to supply the RM,

 

Q3 base cost is £4,000 or 20G for an extra 100energy a day for 7 days. (700 energy)

 

 

Alternatives being waiting 30mins for that extra energy or buying some EB's which are currently priced at 15.4G for 1,000 Energy

 

I think it's 4000 RM in total, so 8 workers can supply the RM needed.  So the base cost would be about 1100 cc.



#33 TomislavRexCroatorum

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:21 PM

So no donate house? So if you live in small country it will be extra hard to sell houses. If you have licence still you will need to pay a lot for import tax right? So in countries with "dead" market you wont be able to sell houses.

#34 Alfagrem

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:44 PM

I think it's 4000 RM in total, so 8 workers can supply the RM needed.  So the base cost would be about 1100 cc.

 

In Q3 Each House worker requires the production of 4 RM workers.

 

£4000 is the total in wages you'd therefore have to pay to complete one Q3 house.



#35 taulen

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:50 PM

Do you know that, or just a guess ? If you know, and are sure, the cost is just insane. I dont actually think it is, and I think 4000 is total needed, and it would be MUCH more reasonable.

 

Edit:
And 4 workers doesnt make sense, until now, each worker could produce 500, so it would be 8 workers to produce 4000 that it states is needed. The question is if we need 4000 per worker, aka 4000 x 20 = 80 000 total.

Or just 4000 total.

4 workers would only produce 2000.

 

Edit2:

And as you wrote in the earlier post, its not an extra 100 energy per day, its just gives to the option to save up an 100 extra recovery (200) if you count both recovered and unrecovered. So if you recover 40 energy per 60min as I do, and most others I guess for most of the time. You can sleep or be away an extra 18 minutes before having to recover so you dont lose any energy.


Edited by taulen, 21 July 2014 - 05:56 PM.


#36 Twoo

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:51 PM

So no donate house? So if you live in small country it will be extra hard to sell houses. If you have licence still you will need to pay a lot for import tax right? So in countries with "dead" market you wont be able to sell houses.

 

The buyer could come to your country to buy it :D



#37 Ja nisam Bosko Buha

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:02 PM

And yet again good idea ruined thanks to admin incompetence and greed, why i'm not surprised.

 

Great job!

 

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Edited by Ja nisam Bosko Buha, 21 July 2014 - 06:02 PM.

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#38 Alfagrem

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:33 PM

Do you know that, or just a guess ? If you know, and are sure, the cost is just insane. I dont actually think it is, and I think 4000 is total needed, and it would be MUCH more reasonable.

 

Edit:
And 4 workers doesnt make sense, until now, each worker could produce 500, so it would be 8 workers to produce 4000 that it states is needed. The question is if we need 4000 per worker, aka 4000 x 20 = 80 000 total.

Or just 4000 total.

4 workers would only produce 2000.

 

Edit2:

And as you wrote in the earlier post, its not an extra 100 energy per day, its just gives to the option to save up an 100 extra recovery (200) if you count both recovered and unrecovered. So if you recover 40 energy per 60min as I do, and most others I guess for most of the time. You can sleep or be away an extra 18 minutes before having to recover so you dont lose any energy.

 

 

Says 20 worker tickets required for a Q3 house.

 

 

20 workers on £40 each = £800

 

Now if its 4,000RM per worker then you are talking £4,000 as being the minimum cost of production

 

 

If however, It's that a Q3 house needs 4,000RM

 

You need 8 workers to produce 4,000RM

8 workers on £40 each = £320

 

So the minimum cost is now down to £1,120



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:45 PM

Additionally if you double the tickets and RMs required at each following Q as seems to be occuring then by the time you get to the Q6 and Q7 levels where we're apparently going to get extra recovery;

 

QUALITY                  WORK TICKETS                       RM

   Q6                                 160                                 32,000

   Q7                                 320                                 64,000

 

 

Then you are looking at a non-profit, minimal price of £8,960 (45G) for Q6 and £17,920 (90G) for Q7



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:03 PM

The cost is far too high, you end up energy bars being cheaper.

A Q3 now is between 28 to 36 works depending on productivity so assuming all it actually does is bring an extra 100 health while sleeping it becomes costlier than energy bars at promo prices when wages hits 53-68cc and wages will go well above that.


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