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#1 Marcus CRASSUS Dives

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:14 AM

With all due respect,

I am starting this topic to see whats the oppinion of other players through out the New World, concerning one idea of mine.

I would like to suggest to eRep Labs that from now on- only players from lvl 35+ have an option to VOTE on any elections. It could be possible for all players to run for Congress, CP, etc- but only players from lvl 35 and higher could be able to vote. I think that political modul would be back to life with this measures and I think that it would solve the problem of multi votes at elections.

What do you think?


Edited by Marcus CRASSUS Dives, 23 July 2014 - 07:14 AM.

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#2 Gucio

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:26 PM

Nice idea, but will never ever happen.



#3 Marcus CRASSUS Dives

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:42 PM

Nice idea, but will never ever happen.

Hm, I thought that a purpose of this Forum is to discuss bout stuffs, to see would be there some good idea to implement, meaning- for us to see and talk about all advantages and disadvantages of the same...

So, having all that in mind- can I ask you for a reason why?



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:46 PM

It would decrease the motivation of new players so I don't think it gonna happen.

most of the players of erepublik has already vote right in reality so preventing them from voting in game would be nonsense! :D  However the only reason for mulies is not just voting!

And I'm glad we are able to speak freely about multies in sight of an admin! :P

 

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#5 Gucio

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

Hm, I thought that a purpose of this Forum is to discuss bout stuffs, to see would be there some good idea to implement, meaning- for us to see and talk about all advantages and disadvantages of the same...

So, having all that in mind- can I ask you for a reason why?

 

Not stopping any discussions at all, but it will take about half a year or so to reach level 35 for a new player, and probably more than 90% would drop out because their game would be limited for the first six months.


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#6 Ja nisam Bosko Buha

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:14 PM

Not stopping any discussions at all, but it will take about half a year or so to reach level 35 for a new player, and probably more than 90% would drop out because their game would be limited for the first six months.

Yeah 35 is a lot, 25 is better.

For lvl 25 you need ~2 weeks if someone is rly active (fighting every day 2FF at least)  or 1month(or more) for those who just work+train and finish their DO.

That should be fair.

Now to create multi acc rdy for voting someone needs ~15minutes (to get to lvl20).


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#7 Marcus CRASSUS Dives

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:16 PM

Well, if they can run for Congress, Party President, even for Country President, I do not see that it would limit their game a much. Only thing they would not be able to do- is a voting on elections. And, you know, I do not know whats worse- that for current players political module is crippled or a care for new ones (from whom 90% are multies) and you know that well :)

But, if administration would say that in a very beginning of a story, then why to talk more about it on a first place XD



#8 Marcus CRASSUS Dives

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:20 PM

It would decrease the motivation of new players so I don't think it gonna happen.

most of the players of erepublik has already vote right in reality so preventing them from voting in game would be nonsense! :D  However the only reason for mulies is not just voting!

And I'm glad we are able to speack freely about multies in sight of an admin! :P

 

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Yea, they can vote in reality - but just one vote! Heheheheh :D



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:39 PM

online time counter ? For example for examle 30day X 2 Hours = 60  Hour  . 

if player online time in month   +60h  can vote election

 

if 59h can't Vote election access :)


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:14 AM

definitly no! 25 i could agree whit but 35 is way to much


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#11 I am The Best23

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:48 PM

Not stopping any discussions at all, but it will take about half a year or so to reach level 35 for a new player, and probably more than 90% would drop out because their game would be limited for the first six months.

i don't know what the current level now is maybe 10, 15 or 20? but maybe raise it to 25 or 30 it kind of in between or make an option for party presidents to remove members to prevent PTO



#12 Mikhail Zarevich Kalashnikov

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 12:59 PM

About level 35 thing, maybe is too much, and in reality doesn't matter the level, 25 or 35, who wants to make multies will arrive until necessary for vote. For example, actually multies are kind easy to check, since once they are adult, normally they don't surpass too much the levels needed for vote.

 

I would like to add to this discussion some ideas for fight against multies in the political system:

 

- Political Activity Status, to demand to all players to be active X days in order they can vote. For example, from last 10 days before election day, to be active 5 or 6 days (no need to be in a row or continued). This is the simplest idea and I think will work, since multies stop growing after beeing adult, demanding activity will cause a nightmare to the multi accounters since they will feel bound to use them and make them grow. And probably lots of multi accounters will get tired soon or later. In my opinion this is my first choice.

 

- In my opinion, an option for reduce multi accounts that push parties into the top5 is the posibility of making Political Alliance (We have military actually right?)

How works: A political party would agree to join other parties for make a coalition, and making the sum of all party members, If they get into the top 5, they can present to congress or CP elections as far they are united.  I belive this will increase deals between small parties and they won't feel expelled from politics and find the need of making multies for push into the top5. About who decided the order of the candidates and the CP candidate, can be choosed by biggest party president of party alliance, or other system...

 

- Another idea is to erase the top 5 limitation for present to Congress. I saw cases where the multi accounters expell the active players from top 5 party positions for avoid them present any candidate in congress. I think would be better a system, where for example, you need a % of final votes for get 1 congressman. And not a Top 5 position before elections. I mean for example, If your party get a 3% or 5% from the final total votes, they have the right to have at least 1 seat in the congress. I belive that will reduce the last minute top 5 multies entering at 23:59 before the selection day of the top 5 parties for congress. And also the creation of accounts just for push a party into the top. And also there is the case were a big party have less active members than a small party :D


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#13 Kanselier

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:53 PM

I fully agree whit Mikhaels propositions...
His third proposition is also how it happens in My real life country in real life belgium: where parties need to achieve a 5% vote minimum...


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#14 Vlad Gordin

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 07:02 PM

Need to work hard to have right to vote. Means only player with hard worker medal can vote



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Posted 21 September 2014 - 02:49 PM

With all due respect,

I am starting this topic to see whats the oppinion of other players through out the New World, concerning one idea of mine.

I would like to suggest to eRep Labs that from now on- only players from lvl 35+ have an option to VOTE on any elections. It could be possible for all players to run for Congress, CP, etc- but only players from lvl 35 and higher could be able to vote. I think that political modul would be back to life with this measures and I think that it would solve the problem of multi votes at elections.

What do you think?

it would be even better if div2 and above players could vote or be elected to congress and only div3 and div4 players could be elected presidents. that way we prevent unexperienced players to get involved with too much responsibility!



#16 V4LeRioN

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 03:10 PM

Hard vote....

Not only level 35 but also some kind of % of working or fighting every month. We don't want the opinion of the multies and the zombies and we don't want the opinion of those that log once a month.

#17 Teddy beer eBe

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 04:41 PM

lvl 35 seems so high.
 
Lvl 25 seems high enough
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Like V4LeRioN suggest, some kind of activity control  every month. Maybe minimum 20 Days/Month.


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#18 TomislavRexCroatorum

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 06:03 PM

It is stupid idea, I am lvl 24 and have over 25k strenght. Also for some1 managing multies it is probably not problem to make multies lvl 25, it will take more time for cheaters, but results would be the same since all the sides will have to invest more of their free time to lvlup multies. I think erepublik admins have some anti cheat engine, so it should erase most of the multie vote if im right, (probably same IP votes or something).


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