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#101 Xavinyo

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:36 PM

You admit: "Overproduction is an iussue"

 

The ones who do overproduction are, multimilionaryie companymans with hundreds of companies. They sell 99% of their production, causing over production.

 

The change you proposed hits everyone, the ones WHO HAS NOTHINGT TO DO WITH over production.

 

The result:

  • the ones who causes 99% of the overproduction sells their stuff at higher price
    • they get even richer
    • overproduction is not affected at all, they don't fight 3x more
  • all the other people who just have enough for their own got hit
    • they lost on it, spending their money to the rich ones again
    • they either stop fighting
    • or donate money to the ones causing over production

 

As a summary, your change makes it easier for the source of problem (over prudicing guys), and in the meanwhile you penalize all the rest, the everyday players without this game would be a deserted place.

 

This change and the extremely ironic and irritating reasoning makes players upset.


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#102 Charlotte Partheney

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 02:32 PM

You admit: "Overproduction is an iussue"

 

The ones who do overproduction are, multimilionaryie companymans with hundreds of companies. They sell 99% of their production, causing over production.

 

The change you proposed hits everyone, the ones WHO HAS NOTHINGT TO DO WITH over production.

 

The result:

  • the ones who causes 99% of the overproduction sells their stuff at higher price
    • they get even richer
    • overproduction is not affected at all, they don't fight 3x more
  • all the other people who just have enough for their own got hit
    • they lost on it, spending their money to the rich ones again
    • they either stop fighting
    • or donate money to the ones causing over production

 

As a summary, your change makes it easier for the source of problem (over prudicing guys), and in the meanwhile you penalize all the rest, the everyday players without this game would be a deserted place.

 

This change and the extremely ironic and irritating reasoning makes players upset.

 

 

So how do you solve the source of problem?

I see you can complain,but can you offer any solution all?

You know no matter what the change is people like you there to complain.

I for one would like to a read a solution not just complaints.

But the thing is there are no solution,because people will rage like mad and cry all day,so nothing can be changed.

 

As for this change wasnt bad at all mostly because not radical, if it were radical game would be torn apart by the likes of you how much oyu lost and etc


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#103 Demonaire

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 02:40 PM

So how do you solve the source of problem?

I see you can complain,but can you offer any solution all?

You know no matter what the change is people like you there to complain.

I for one would like to a read a solution not just complaints.

But the thing is there are no solution,because people will rage like mad and cry all day,so nothing can be changed.

 

As for this change wasnt bad at all mostly because not radical, if it were radical game would be torn apart by the likes of you how much oyu lost and etc

 

The funny thing is: the same community have the tools to stop overproduction (enhacing the Work Tax and the Minimal Wage), but almost all the countries still have both tools completely unused.

 

In some mode, I understand why Plato isn't going to fix the economy: the economy was already fixed when he made available to the community the Work Tax, specially designed for that purpose. Hence, it's community fault for not using it.

 

Greetings.


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#104 Zordacz

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 06:43 PM

The overproduction can be solved by increasing the consumption but not the way it's done right now. Reverting to the old Weekly Challenge rewards would be a good start, especially 200PP for +10hp/6min. Then Q8 weapons and food could be introduced, with a high production cost, requiring Q1-Q7 products as the input instead of raw materials (similar to rocket factories) so that every company type can benefit. Eventually raw usage would increase, too. That would solve the problem at least for another year or two. Big tanks would be happy as well, they could chase higher ranks beyond the Titan.



#105 Charlotte Partheney

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 09:31 PM

The overproduction can be solved by increasing the consumption but not the way it's done right now. Reverting to the old Weekly Challenge rewards would be a good start, especially 200PP for +10hp/6min. Then Q8 weapons and food could be introduced, with a high production cost, requiring Q1-Q7 products as the input instead of raw materials (similar to rocket factories) so that every company type can benefit. Eventually raw usage would increase, too. That would solve the problem at least for another year or two. Big tanks would be happy as well, they could chase higher ranks beyond the Titan.

 

As far as I know q8 cant be introduced because of players when q7 was introduced almost formed a rebellion against game and owners had to promise not to introduce higher quality companys.

So you see cant be done because of players.

But I indeed agree that would be a very good change.

 

As for higher energy recover I am not so sure mainly because that would make new players to fall behind even more.

As it is now I have no reason to train other than free training because no matter what old players always will have over 100k str advantage. For me and any new players military module is irrevelant.


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#106 NoOnexRO

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

So how do you solve the source of problem?

I see you can complain,but can you offer any solution all?

You know no matter what the change is people like you there to complain.

I for one would like to a read a solution not just complaints.

But the thing is there are no solution,because people will rage like mad and cry all day,so nothing can be changed.

 

As for this change wasnt bad at all mostly because not radical, if it were radical game would be torn apart by the likes of you how much oyu lost and etc

 

 

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Let me get this straight: YOU want ME, a player to teach the ADMINS how to take my money by offering me an appealing game? Good joke. In what universe you go to a Casino for instance and you say: "hey, if you do THIS and THAT I will play all my money on your games and you will be rich"? Of course WE complain. That's OUR job. To be unsatisfied as customers by a poor and very poor offer. I don't have anything else to do. It's not my job to find solutions. I don't get paid to find solutions. I don't get paid to answer questions. I don't get paid to do anything. In fact from MY money those who offer me crap get their salaries.


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#107 Daniel Rockdrigisimo

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 02:49 PM

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Let me get this straight: YOU want ME, a player to teach the ADMINS how to take my money by offering me an appealing game? Good joke. In what universe you go to a Casino for instance and you say: "hey, if you do THIS and THAT I will play all my money on your games and you will be rich"? Of course WE complain. That's OUR job. To be unsatisfied as customers by a poor and very poor offer. I don't have anything else to do. It's not my job to find solutions. I don't get paid to find solutions. I don't get paid to answer questions. I don't get paid to do anything. In fact from MY money those who offer me crap get their salaries.

He is absolutely right :D



#108 Charlotte Partheney

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 06:57 PM

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Let me get this straight: YOU want ME, a player to teach the ADMINS how to take my money by offering me an appealing game? Good joke. In what universe you go to a Casino for instance and you say: "hey, if you do THIS and THAT I will play all my money on your games and you will be rich"? Of course WE complain. That's OUR job. To be unsatisfied as customers by a poor and very poor offer. I don't have anything else to do. It's not my job to find solutions. I don't get paid to find solutions. I don't get paid to answer questions. I don't get paid to do anything. In fact from MY money those who offer me crap get their salaries.

 

Seems about right, especially if these complaints save us from horrible ideas like resource reshuffle, then I say worth it.



#109 Colonel Bruce

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 02:26 AM

ooo, this is :)

stupidest thing I've heard in this game so far, so help me god :(



#110 Eashoa

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 04:36 AM

it was fun reading the comments here.



#111 Gameiro101

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 03:04 PM

Want to fix the economy??

 

1. Stop creating more demand, if you create more demand, players will invest in more companies ( so no more boost the economy days).

 

2. Bring back the country correncys, i can go to the markets ingame/itrade and dump over 10k of weapons Q7 all around the world with no problem, with the country correncys i will have to think twice before selling in some markets (i remember ppl selling weapons on #itrade for 10 gold, because than cant accept more gold, so no need for more factorys).

 

3. Introduce limits to the number os factorys that each player can have, that way you don't have players with over 100 raw factorys dumping them at the market becasue ever at 0,01 cc they have profit. this can be a little dificult to intruduce because no one wants to loose/ be forced to sell extra factorys, but it will reduce production.

 

ps. if you can fixe the economy hire and economist  to help you ;)



#112 Demonaire

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:03 PM

Want to fix the economy??

 

1. Stop creating more demand, if you create more demand, players will invest in more companies ( so no more boost the economy days).

 

Oh, gosh, we're lost....


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#113 Charlotte Partheney

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:56 PM

Oh, gosh, we're lost....

 

The more you read about fix economy complaints the more you will say that.

I mean just think about this:

If they up demand then people say:

"Too expensive everything,noone should fight till they reserve change"

On other if things left too cheap then:

"Not worth investing into companys hardly sell anything"

 

So what these players want something utopia like:

You must have everything without effort but you must also get insane profit.

 

If ever realized however that kind of utopia will be a short lived one,cause servers shut down very fast that way



#114 Demonaire

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 08:14 PM

The more you read about fix economy complaints the more you will say that.

I mean just think about this:

If they up demand then people say:

"Too expensive everything,noone should fight till they reserve change"

On other if things left too cheap then:

"Not worth investing into companys hardly sell anything"

 

So what these players want something utopia like:

You must have everything without effort but you must also get insane profit.

 

If ever realized however that kind of utopia will be a short lived one,cause servers shut down very fast that way

 

Yeah, but al least there is some logic in people asking to create more demand: for raising prices, the expected result would be to enhance the wages, hence, you would be improving their purchasing power in some items, reactivating savings and investment and creating some economical cycle.

 

This "economist", instead, ask to stop demand... I'm asking for myself if he found his degree in some "piñata" or something.

 

By the way, entered in the topic, we already are in an economical utopía: low prices, we produce for ourselves, and, unlike RL, we receive good economical "prizes" by, for example, being a hardworker, going to the gym or being a true patriot... but you don't see the people happy, right?

 

It's like The Matrix Architect: He said his first oeuvre was a perfect world, and that was the reason for his failure: nobody likes "perfection". That's why he created the "RL" world.

 

Greetings.


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#115 Gameiro101

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 09:56 AM

This "economist", instead, ask to stop demand... I'm asking for myself if he found his degree in some "piñata" or something.

 

I'm no economist ;)

 

When i  said to "Stop creating more demand" i was speaking about the boos economic days, because they will bring it back, i wasn't talking about tournament and power pack ;)

 

Plato has to stop aplying bandaid and start thinking in an long time fix.



#116 Eashoa

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 05:28 PM

http://www.erepublik...le/2479260/1/20 read it



#117 Natster

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Posted 12 January 2015 - 06:18 PM

http://www.erepublik...me-2486842/1/20

Solve the pop decrease




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