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[Bis Bis]

The time period of voting a law is 24 hours, to let all the Congressmen and the President to vote it. The law is applied or not 24 hours after the launch of the vote.
I suggest to change just a little this last part : if every congressmen and the President gave their vote, the vote period ends. For exemple : a law is launch at 12am, and all the Congressmen voted within 5 hours. The voting period ends after the last vote, and the law is apply (or not) at this moment, instead of 19 hours later.

I don't see any practical inconvenient of such a change, but I see a good plus ; if a country is attacked, and their finances are bad, the Congress will be able to change the taxes quickly, giving the opportunity to finance a resistance faster.

[tommot]

Only if every single one has voted... then yes. It would be pointless to keep a vote open if all votes are in.

[Bis Bis]

Precisely !!

[Eric Boucher]

Also, i would add something.

 

If there is 100 people that vote,

 

51 has voted yes,

1 has voted no,

 

the law should pass because it's can't fail in a 50 % requirement. If need 60 % to pass, just ajust.

[tommot]

Also, i would add something.

 

If there is 100 people that vote,

 

51 has voted yes,

1 has voted no,

 

the law should pass because it's can't fail in a 50 % requirement. If need 60 % to pass, just ajust.

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It is % of the votes, not of the total congress members. http://wiki.erepubli..._Laws_Are_Voted

[Eric Boucher]

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It is % of the votes, not of the total congress members. http://wiki.erepubli..._Laws_Are_Voted

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100 people that can vote... 

[Bis Bis]

@Tommot : if 100 personnes can vote, and the law needs 50% to be accepted. If 51 personnes vote yes, even if the 49 other vote no, the law will be accepted. So after a 51-yes vote, it's useless to keep going the voting process. (The same with 60 percent)

[tommot]

Are you saying that those 49 other votes no longer have the right to vote?

 

You're original proposal allows to end the vote before the time limit expires is only good because all eligible voters have voted.

 

@Tommot : if 100 personnes can vote, and the law needs 50% to be accepted. If 51 personnes vote yes, even if the 49 other vote no, the law will be accepted. So after a 51-yes vote, it's useless to keep going the voting process. (The same with 60 percent)

This suggestion robes the minority of congress of the right to vote. If the ones who voted Yes had the right to vote that way, then why is that right suddenly no longer applied for those who haven't voted yet.. Who knows.. you might discover that another 20% of them votes yes as well.

That kind of details are of great impact on debates and other developments in congress. Sometimes these things can indicate a shift of allegiance or a change of policy.

Anyway, denying part of congress their right to vote has multiple effects even beyond congress.

[Bis Bis]

That's right, I didn't see that like that : I was only looking at the mathematical result and the pratical thing, I didn't rink about the right for everyone to share their mind

[tommot]

That's right, I didn't see that like that : I was only looking at the mathematical result and the pratical thing, I didn't rink about the right for everyone to share their mind

You are missing almost half of you mathematical equation as you deny them to vote. half of the sum is missing. I wouldn't call that very practical.

[Eric Boucher]

You are missing almost half of you mathematical equation as you deny them to vote. half of the sum is missing. I wouldn't call that very practical.

This are really mathematically valid. Once haft+1 of possible vote are the same side, all other are completly unchanging to the result. The result will be over 50 %. An exemple, many times, in real elections, some people are considered reelected with only 20-30 % of the possible vote on their side.