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#1 Captain Niks

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 08:15 PM

Dear friends,
 
- Background -
eRepublik implemented Citizenship in 2009-10. As far as I know, those days any group of players could go to any country and start a new party and take over politically and destroy it. So developers came with the concept of citizenship. So that only specific people can be allowed to handle politics and administration of the country. 
 
But what if some people who wants come back or wants join a country with good heart? There comes a concept of GRANTING citizenship. As per rules. an elected congressman of the country can approve citizenship requests by going into request page. But admins never thought of REVOKING any citizenship.
 
- Problem -
Now lets take an example of a congressman who got elected and GRANTS the citizenship to a really strong player who seems good for the country at the beginning. After few days the player goes rogue and starts to do anything he pleases ignoring what the country stands for. 
 
In this case what the fellow countrymen can do as of now? NOTHING ! There's no way to remove such players from country and send them to their previous country citizenship.
 
- Solutions -
1. Similar to Granting citizenship, Congressmen could be allowed to go and revoke citizenship of already granted people by visiting same citizenship requests page. We can put limit of 1 REVOKE per month per congressman similar to what is there for GRANT citizenship as of now.
 
2. There could be a additional congress law which only president of the country (or any congressman) can propose, which gives list of maximum 1% to 3% of rogue players per month to revoke their citizenship, which requires 67% 'YES' to be passed (similar to impeachment law).
 
3. Players who have been newly accepted as citizens could be given a cool down time of 6 (or specific) months before they can be part of any political activities like creating a party, running for any post and/or voting in any elections.
 
4. These citizens whose citizenship has been revoked could then either be -
4.1 Grant them previous country citizenship 
4.2 Make a new citizenship type as REFUGEE, which makes them citizen of no  country and they can apply citizenship of any country except the one where they were kicked out in last 6 (or specific) months. After they get a new citizenship, the process mentioned in point 3 above could be applied.
 
- Summary -
This will make players in eRepublik think twice before going berserk as the Revoking citizenship means a total political blackout of specific months for them. This will greatly reduce the efforts of countries put into managing such players. Small countries will greatly help from this because currently any one strong player can turn things around them and they hardly can do anything to stop it. Except waiting for such players to leave the country.
 
 
 
 
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Edited by Captain Niks, 01 December 2019 - 09:41 AM.

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#2 BrknSword

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 08:19 PM

Voted for the citizenship converted to the previous country.

 

Also this should be implemented as soon as possible which will increase the fair-play environment for all of the eCountries. 


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#3 LIKE A B0SS

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 08:25 PM

comparing erepublik to real life LUL


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#4 Powerfull land

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 08:28 PM

comparing erepublik to real life LUL

why not :)



#5 Sekigan

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 08:39 PM

benis  :)


 

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#6 Zordacz

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:05 PM

After no more than 1 year of trial citizenship, otherwise a half of eRep's population could be unjustly thrown out based on personal grounds.

 

Another danger - someone PTOs a country, reaches the majority in the congress, and revokes the CS of the opposition. There are a lot of expat countries that would be at risk.


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#7 Captain Niks

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:37 PM

After no more than 1 year of trial citizenship, otherwise a half of eRep's population could be unjustly thrown out based on personal grounds.

Another danger - someone PTOs a country, reaches the majority in the congress, and revokes the CS of the opposition. There are a lot of expat countries that would be at risk.


I have added Edits to original topic above.

Edited by Captain Niks, 30 November 2019 - 09:47 PM.

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#8 chris jonadicus

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:48 PM

while this sounds like a good idea, i personally suggest that in the case of a bad citizen, that this person's citizenship should be converted to that of his previous e-country.
(or to the citizenship of the e-country that he joined the game with...)
 
if they've had no citizenship at all, that would basically render them unable to play, which is similar to them getting banned.
 
so yeah, a voting proccess of acting VS a bad citizen should simply result in him/her having their citizenship changed to that of his previous (or of his first) e-country.
 
thats all.

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#9 Anubis.3

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 04:59 AM

Anyone who has ever managed a country's affairs is all too well aware of the danger of rogue citizens - they're especially problematic in small communities. Every country out there has a group of rogue citizens and the leaders do their best to keep them out of congress, but that becomes harder as the community shrinks (as is happening to many), a small country could get too many regions and the rogue citizens get into congress.

 

These rogue citizens can, on their own, accept more people. To me, this is absurd. Why should congress members have so much power? - the power to give CS should be taken by the government collectively and not by just one individual.

 

Because of that flawed game feature, yes, we need a way to revoke citizenship. If a particular expat citizen causes massive problems to a country, and the community is pretty much unanimous in their agreement to deport, it should be allowed to happen. Too often we have seen one single rogue citizen go against the will of 95% of the community and erepublik does not provide any remedial measures for such situations.


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#10 Tanishq Abraham

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 09:50 AM

I agree. It helps small countries a lot from defending their country agains PTO. 


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#11 Punisher 1389

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 08:07 PM

good idea.






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