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[Hades III]

In a way, palestine is like Tatooine, with Israel being the Death Star.

 

Watto was probably an exiled Jew.

[bonjik]

Their was a never a country called Palestine . In other words Israel never conquered them , the region was taken from Syria , Egypt and Jordan(We currently have peace with Jordan and Egypt & with Syria in a NAP for the last 40 years).

[shadowukcs]

UN convicts Israel of crimes against humanity and breaking international law

 

http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/8257301.stm

 

 

Human rights watch (http://www.hrw.org/m...srael-palestine)

"Israel

Israeli authorities demolished homes and property under discriminatory policies in the Israeli Negev and the West Bank, and harassed non-violent protesters and built unlawful settlements in occupied territory. Unlawful Israeli attacks in Gaza killed dozens of civilians, and the Israeli blockade, which Egypt tacitly supported, harmed Gaza’s economy."

 

 

Human rights watch (http://www.hrw.org/n...ank-demolitions)

"Israeli military forces should cease actions in a West Bank Bedouin community that were apparently intended to displace the residents without lawful justification. The military demolished all homes in the community on September 16, 2013, and blocked four attempts by humanitarian groups to provide shelters, with soldiers using force against residents, humanitarian workers, and foreign diplomats on September 20. Under international humanitarian law in effect in the occupied West Bank, the deliberate unlawful forced transfer of a population is a war crime."

 

 

http://www.hrw.org/w...srael-palestine

"Israeli forces killed at least four Palestinian civilians during the year off Gaza’s coast and in the “no-go” zone on the Gaza side of the boundary fence. Israeli authorities destroyed homes and other property under discriminatory practices, forcibly displacing Palestinian residents of the West Bank, as well as Bedouin citizens of Israel."

 

 

 

http://www.israelnat...56#.UozIhuIinyY

"In the past, the concentration camps were fenced off with barbed wire. Today, the border between Israel and Palestine is marked with barbed wire and a wall”."

 

 

New York Times (http://www.nytimes.c...s-law.html?_r=0)

"Israel has pursued a creeping annexation of the Palestinian territories through the creation of Jewish settlements and committed multiple violations of international law, possibly including war crimes, a United Nations panel said Thursday, calling for an immediate halt to all settlement activity and the withdrawal of all settlers."

 

 

http://www.theguardi...aw-settlers-icc

"Israel must withdraw all settlers from the West Bank or potentially face a case at the international criminal court (ICC) for serious violations of international law, says a report by a United Nations agency that was immediately dismissed in Jerusalem as "counterproductive and unfortunate"."

 

 

 

 

Conclusion: Israel is seen by the entire world as the new Nazi Germany, except by themselves. Soon, when they finally realize what they have done, they will reply with "wir habben es nicht gewusst"

[Kecap.Jepo]

this topic is going to be like the kosovo topics of the old OT :3

[shadowukcs]

LIST OF INTRNATIONAL LAW VIOLATIONS BY THE STATE OF ISRAEL

 

The state of Israel has violated many international laws, including United Nations Resolutions and the Laws of War and Occupation as stated in the Fourth Geneva Convention. Below is a summary of some of those violations. Much of the fact sheet was taken from the Israeli Law Resource Center (ILRC). Related articles and laws by the ILRC are linked below.ISRAELI OCCUPATION IS ILLEGAL:

 

 

Laws Violated:

U.N. Charter, Article 2(4) & 51 (1945); Declaration on Principles of International Law Concerning Friendly Relations..., Principle 1(1970).

 

Israeli Actions:

It is illegal under international law to acquire land by force: Israel annexed land occupied by force during 1948 and 1967 wars (lands other than those given by the UN 1947-48 partition plan) ILRC article. Military action and occupations are legal only ifthey are for self-defense, or to directly benefit the native population. But studies show Israel is not just defending itself as it develops de-facto annexation with its settlements and separation barrier on occupied land, as it takes over most of the occupied territories (over 70%) and its natural resources for its own use and economic benefit, at the expense of the native population.

 

 

ILRC article on why the Occupation is illegal.

ILLEGAL ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS ON OCCUPIED LAND:

Laws Violated:

Geneva Conventions IV, Article 49(6) (1949). It is illegal to colonize occupied land or transfer non-indigenous population to that land. Israeli Actions:

Immediately following the 1967 war, Israel began building Israeli civilian settlements on Palestinian lands, eventually building over 200 settlements throughout the  occupied territories, and settling over 450,000 Israeli civilians in them, displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians from their own legally owned lands. In addition, Israeli citizens live in hundreds of Israeli settlements on occupied land not originally given to them in the UN Partition Plan, displacing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.

 

 

ILRC article.

ILLEGAL TO TAKE LAND BY FORCE & CLAIM SOVEREIGNTY:

Laws Violated:

U.N. Charter, Article 2(4) (1945); Declaration on Principles of International Law Concerning Friendly Relations..., Principle 1(1970).

Israeli Actions:

In violation of the UN Partition Plan, Israel took an extra 15% of the land in 1948, and then, follow ing the 1967 war, Israel confiscated East Jerusalem and the Golan  Heights.

 

 

ILRC article

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ILLEGAL ISRAELI PRACTICE OF ETHNIC CLEANSING:

Laws Violated:

Forbidding civilian populations the right to return to their homes following the end of armed conflict is in direct violation of international law and UN resolutions.  Geneva Conv

ention IV, Articles 45, 46 & 49 (1949), UN resolutions 194 (III) (General Assembly; 1948) & 237 (Security Council; 1967). Israeli Actions : Since 1910, in different ways, the Zionists and then Israel have taken Palestinian lands, forced native populations from their land, and then refused the Palestinian landowners or tenants’ residency or employment on them. Following fighting in 1948 and then again in 1967, Palestinian civilians who wished to return to their

homes in Israel and the Occupied Territories were forbidden re-entry (“right of return”), confining them to increasingly smaller areas of Israel and Occupied Territories.  The Israeli government enacts laws, and employs its military to keep approximately 750,000 Palestinian Arab civilians from returning to their homes following the end of fighting both in 1948 and in the occupied territories in 1967. Israel then violates UN resolutions ordering them to respect Palestinians’ right to return to their homes. See the ILRC article on Right of Return and ILRC article on Ethnic Cleansing

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ISRAELI APARTHEID SYSTEM IS ILLEGAL:

Laws Violated:

International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (1976). Link to our fact sheets on Israeli Apartheid.

Israeli Actions:

The State of Israel has a formal system of legalized discrimination against Palestinian Arabs which technically fits the official UN definition of Apartheid. ILRC article . Israel’s society-wide system of discrimination and isolation of the Palestinian people within Israel, and its system of exploitation, oppression and isolation in the occupied territories, fits exactly the official, legal UN definition of apartheid, which is considered to be a crime against humanity. The practice of passing laws which give special favor throughout Israeli society to the Jewish people over all other people, and especially the native Palestinian Arab people, embodies the UN definition of apartheid, which is giving special favor to one group of people above all other groups based on criteria like what religion they are. Another example is in 2003, the Israeli legislature (Knesset) passed legislation that forbade spouses of Arab-Israeli citizens who are in the occupied territories from joining their families in Israel (with some exceptions). The reason for this legislation is to help maintain the Jewish demograph majority family unification. The racist nature is evident in that only Palestinians (no other ethnic groups) are not forbidden to live in Israel after marrying an Israeli. ILRC article. General article. Amnesty International argues that this law violates fundamental principles of equity, human dignity and personal freedom enshrined in basic law as well as the rights of the child to live with both parents and other fundamental rights enshrined in human rights treaties in which Israel is a signer. ILRC article on Israeli ApartheidMASSIVE VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS (HR):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Laws Violated:

U.N. Charter, Article 1 (1945); Declaration on Principles of International Law Concerning Friendly Relations..., Principle 5 (1970). Israeli Actions: Studies by UN, I.C.J., and International H.R. organizations have found that Israel violates the human rights of Palestinian people on a massive scale, including torture, imprisonment without charges or trial, land confiscation, harassment at checkpoints, unwarranted civilianshootings, not punishing Israeli settlers’ crimes against Palestinians, unwarranted disruption of medical care, commerce, employment, free movement, destruction of public and private property, family separation, etc.....

 

ILRC article. COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT IS ILLEGAL: Laws Violated:

Geneva Conventions IV, Article 33 (1949); Geneva Conventions (Protocol I), Article 75(2d) (1977).

 

Israeli Actions:

In response to Arab rebellion, Israeli Military takes massive action against entire Palestinian communities, for example destroying entire neighborhoods of homes, or confiscating communal farmlands, bulldozing homes, blocking off certain areas, or not allowing civilian populations to leave their houses for extensive periods of time. This is called collective punishment because it punishes entire communities for the actions of a few. ILRC article.

 

 

ILLEGAL MASSIVE TRANSFORMATION OF LOCAL LAWS:

Laws Violated:

Hague Regulations IV, Article 43 (1907).

 

Israeli Actions:Israel has created a dual legal system in the occupied territories – a democratic one linked to Israel for the Israeli settlements, and an oppressive, exploitive one for the Palestinian commnities run by the Israeli military committees and Israeli-controlled civic administrations, replacing all Arab government functions with Israeli military committees, and dismissing or deporting all Arab government official. ILRC article

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VIOLATIONS OF U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS:

Laws Violated:

Israel has violated 28 resolutions of the United Nations Security Council (which are legally binding on member-nations U.N. Charter, Article 25 (1945); a few sample resolutions - 54, 111, 233, 234, 236, 248, 250, 252, 256, 262, 267, 270, 280, 285, 298, 313, 316, 468, 476,etc.

 

Israeli Actions:

Israel has violated many U.N. Security Council resolutions especially relating to its occupations, land annexations, military aggression, HR violations, etc...

ILRC article.

 

Separation Barrier Ruled Illegal

Law Violated:

International Court of Justice of 2004, in an advisory opinion, ruled the Israeli separation barriers illegal. They condemned these paration wall Israel is building throughout the occupied West Bank in a 14 to 1 ruling. The Court begins by citing, with reference to Article 2, paragraph 4, of the United Nations Charter and to General Assembly resolution 2625 (XXV), the principles of the prohibition of the threat or use of force and the illegality of any territorial acquisition by such means, as reflected in customary international law. It notes that significant amounts of land are defacto annexed by the separation barrier.

It further cites the principle of self determination of peoples, as enshrined in the Charter and reaffirmed by resolution 2625 (XXV). As regards international humanitarian law, the Court refers to the provisions of the Hague Regulation of 1907, which have become part of customary law, as well as the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of1949, applicable in those Palestinian territories which, before the armed conflict of 1967, lay to the east of the 1949 Armistice demarcation line (or “Green Line”) and were occupied by Israel during that conflict. The Court further notes that certain human rights instruments (International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights and the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child) are applicable in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. It finds that the construction of the wall and its associated régime are contrary to the relevant provisions of the Hague Regulations of 1907 and of the Fourth Geneva Convention; that they impede the liberty of movement of the inhabitants of the territory as guaranteed by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights; and that they also impede the exercise by the persons concerned of the right to work, to health, to education and to an adequate standard of living as proclaimed in the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights and in the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Lastly, the Court finds that this construction and its associated régime, coupled with the establishment of settlements, are tending to alter the demographic composition of the Occupied Palestinian Territory and thereby contravene the Fourth Geneva Convention and the relevant Security Council resolutions. Israeli Action: The separation barrier built by Israel snakes it way though the West Bank, isolating Palestinians from each other, from their land, work, schools and health care. The wall confiscates significant amounts of land and annexes more land to Israel. The court said:The construction of the wall being built by Israel, the occupying power, in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, and its associated regime, are contrary to international law.”

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Israel is under an obligation to make reparation for all damage caused by the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem.” The court noted that significant amounts of the West

Bank are, defacto, annexed by the wall. Link to International Court of Justice Advisory Opinion.

 

 

http://itisapartheid...nationalLaw.pdf

 

[shadowukcs]

check aaaaaand mate

 

 

 

face it bonjik, you live in a criminal genocidal state similar to Nazi Germany. You guys have violated so many international laws that the only reason your state still exists and isn't labelled "terrorist state" is because of economical interests and your powerful Washington lobby.

[RoaiTG]

it all ends and begins with the fact judea and samaria is not occupied region.

 

P.S your racist claiming don't impress anybody.

Edited by RoaiTG, 20 November 2013 - 04:24 PM.

[RoaiTG]

ok let's start

 

1. Israel GDP is not high thanks to to jewish community, the people who came to Palestina at the beginning of zionism came without nothing, the donations were minor, the jewish community in palestina was grown economicly thanks to mass farming and effecitive communist towns (kibutzs), meanwhile Israel made its money from industrial agricultural and high techlonogy devolpment, the jewish community donations is 4% of the yearly budget and USA aid is standing between one percect to two percent.

 

2. Egyptian general said once that palestine is invention of the zionists, before the zionists asked for promition for the ottomans and the british empire to live in that abandoned and shockingly poor region (the muslims managed at what people thought as impossible for thousands of years, they screwed up the trade route, and got the taxes their high, this is regions turn to poority), it was part of syria that during the yeras were called in few names, that's why the assads claim Israel is south syria, first the british called Israel and Jordan palestina and then divided it to palestina and transjordan, since they planned to divide it when they leave (actually according to the international law israel could claim for Jordan too but we will talk about it), so basically if not the zionist movment palestina - the roman name for Judea would'nt reborn, and except being miserable by other arabs in other countries the palestinians would be normal miserable arabs by their regime.

 

the jewish mass farming that i'v talked about made a demand for lot of workers, so lot of arabs migrated to the region, and after some period it was healty region, so even more migrators migrated to palestina, in 70 years the arabs population in palestina grown from 100K to 1.2M, and we all know that is not possible growth, you also have to think about that point, if there really was palestine for 1400 years, which cities they'v built? we know that the few villages that were destroyed in 1948 were nothing but undevolped employees villages.

 

so if you think Israel is illegal and there is occoupation in judea and samaria let's see some facts.

 

1. Israel based on the mandate of palestina.

 

2. the arabs refused to 1948 sharing palestina offer so they have no legal claim for that region, only for Jordan.

 

3. the League of Nations desided to give Israel for the jews and Jordan for the arabs, and the United Nations adopted it.

 

4. according to article 80 of UN charter Israeli right for the territory is still available http://treaties.un.o...C/uncharter.pdf

 

5. from 1948 to 1967 Judea and Samaria was Israeli territory under Jordan occupation.

 

6. the green line aka 1967 borders were borders of ceasefire that was broke by the arabs after eight weeks

 

7. Jordan has no claim for Judea and Samaria.

 

8. after 1967 war the 'palestinians' claimed to be Jordanian, Jordan killed 20K of them (aka 'Black September').

 

9. the arab world recnoised palestine only after they failed at destroying Israel and Jordan refused to join 1973 war (before that they claimed it's jordanian land, except syria that claimed it's their south).

 

you can find enough quotes of idiots claiming palestina is a 'punishment weapon' against Israel.

 

P.S i'v told you already, stop bringing your failing propoganda here, if you have a claim express it in your own words.

Edited by RoaiTG, 20 November 2013 - 05:09 PM.

[Flaco Jimenez]

[Liam J. Gallagher]

 

You sir are an Asshole!

 

 

 

And it looks to me like you, sir, are a homosexual.

So apparently color is the measure of homosexuality...

You sir are an Asshole!

[Philip Begger]

For those of you who need a history lesson.

[Hades III]

So apparently color is the measure of homosexuality...

You sir are an Asshole!

 

Yes, and the colors say you're a faggot.

[Flaco Jimenez]

Since you are in Bonjik's basement.....find and steal his gold for the win. 

[Hades III]

Since you are in Bonjik's basement.....find and steal his gold for the win. 

 

I can't. He placed a number of Palestinian children around his gold and placed bobms on them. If I get any closer he will blow them up.

[Kecap.Jepo]

send al-aqsa martyr kitten brigade to distract palestinians

[Grzechooo]

Mildly relevant

[shadowukcs]

it all ends and begins with the fact judea and samaria is not occupied region.

 

P.S your racist claiming don't impress anybody.

 

The UN, which, in case you don't know, is the best representative of the world population you'll find, (granted, it aint perfect) clearly says your state is a war criminal and guilty of genocide. That's about all the proof I need. It doesn't matter whether you call it "occupying" a region or just "leasing it". You live in a state that, after careful investigations by a panel of investigators from all around the globe, is guilty of crimes against humanity. No matter how you turn or twist it, no matter how many history lessons you try to defend yourself with: YOUR COUNTRY COMMITS WAR CRIMES, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND GENOCIDE

 

 

You know what other country did that? ... Yea, that's right... Nazi Germany

[Philip Begger]

The UN, which, in case you don't know, is the best representative of the world population you'll find, (granted, it aint perfect) clearly says your state is a war criminal and guilty of genocide. That's about all the proof I need. It doesn't matter whether you call it "occupying" a region or just "leasing it". You live in a state that, after careful investigations by a panel of investigators from all around the globe, is guilty of crimes against humanity. No matter how you turn or twist it, no matter how many history lessons you try to defend yourself with: YOUR COUNTRY COMMITS WAR CRIMES, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND GENOCIDE

 

 

You know what other country did that? ... Yea, that's right... Nazi Germany

 

  And the countries around Israel aren't gulity of anything? No war crimes?

 

 If you watched the video I presented above, you would see that Israel as tried to make peace multiple times. All of them were turned down and met with violence. If you think the Jewish people are just gonna sit back and let rockets fly into their cities, think again.

 

 And don't even forget about the massive food aid Israel sends to the Gaza Strip. Israel has more then redeemed themselves for their war crimes. Can the nations surrounding her say the same?

 

 I hardly think so.

[shadowukcs]

  And the countries around Israel aren't gulity of anything? No war crimes?

 

 If you watched the video I presented above, you would see that Israel as tried to make peace multiple times. All of them were turned down and met with violence. If you think the Jewish people are just gonna sit back and let rockets fly into their cities, think again.

 

 And don't even forget about the massive food aid Israel sends to the Gaza Strip. Israel has more then redeemed themselves for their war crimes. Can the nations surrounding her say the same?

 

 I hardly think so.

 

 

lol, are you tripping? Israel sending massive food aid? Go believe so more jew propaganda

 

 

(New York Times) http://www.nytimes.c...tions.html?_r=0

 

"The United Nations secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, repeated Tuesday his demand that Israel allow significantly more humanitarian aid into the beleaguered Gaza Strip, and he announced that he would send a team to investigate the bombings of United Nations facilities there. [...] Mr. Ban said at a news conference that the United Nations was trying to get relief supplies to nearly one million people daily, but that Israel was only allowing one border crossing to open, permitting trucks with supplies for only about 30,000 people to get through."

 

http://21stcenturywi...y-in-palestine/

"EU Outrage Over Israeli Attack on International Humanitarian Aid Convoy in Palestine"

 

(The guardian) http://www.theguardi...arian-aid-block

"The Israeli navy today prevented a Libyan ship carrying 3,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid for Palestinians from docking in Gaza."

 

(voice of America) http://www.voanews.c...ns/1710759.html

"JERUSALEM — Israel has blocked the European Union from aiding tens of thousands of Palestinians in the West Bank in retaliation for Brussels' ban on financial assistance to Israeli organizations in the occupied territories."

 

 

Seriously???? You are going to come here claiming that Israel sends humanitarian aid to Gaza when in fact it is blocking all aid in an effort to starve an entire population to death? Lol, either you're joking or someone used a jewish dildo to smash your brains to humus.

[RoaiTG]

The UN, which, in case you don't know, is the best representative of the world population you'll find, (granted, it aint perfect) clearly says your state is a war criminal and guilty of genocide. That's about all the proof I need. It doesn't matter whether you call it "occupying" a region or just "leasing it". You live in a state that, after careful investigations by a panel of investigators from all around the globe, is guilty of crimes against humanity. No matter how you turn or twist it, no matter how many history lessons you try to defend yourself with: YOUR COUNTRY COMMITS WAR CRIMES, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND GENOCIDE

 

 

You know what other country did that? ... Yea, that's right... Nazi Germany

pff that's pathetic, let's start with that the UN is running by interests, there is more third world countries and countries depend on arab oil, so they can pass all they want.

 

where exactly do they say that? on richard goldson report?

 

your claim is pathetic, the arab/muslim world has no legal/moral justifation for what it had done, so all they can do is using the UN, if the UN desides the sun is actually a square ruled by the jews, would it be true?

 

you still have to prove genocide/occupation, and find out what happened to all culture in middle east and north africa that disappeared before islam showed up.