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#1 General Levy

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 12:08 AM

First, before I go into any detail, I'll take a second just to say I'm brand new to the forums, this is my first post, so I hope everyone will go a bit easy on me with this. I've been playing the game on and off, mostly off though since the summer so I'm not a total virgin to the game. I found that I often preferred reading the 'newspapers and articles' rather than the more than the, what I think can be, very monotumus aspects of eRepublik, and I'd also like to just say hello to everyone. I'm putting this in with the actual post only because it would just be another new poster saying hi without adding much.                                              

 

Anyway, on to the issue mentioned in the title. Although it suggests something quite precise within the almost limitless realms of both philosophy and politics, I am far from an expert on the matter. I am currently studuing philosophy as well as politics, ...and economics, so my knowledge of Nietzsche and Nazism are limited.  I guess this is just hoping that even a few people are on the forums who also have a genuine interest in philosphy of any sorts, or even just if someone found this in any way interesting then that would be good enough.

                                   

So, what do I know? Well, as of now I have read two of Nietzsche's, full length works: "The Gay Science" and "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" (haven't finished TSZ but I'm nearly there) and  I've read little bits of some of his other writing, and what I know of the Nazis is mainly comes from a slow accumulation of TV programmes and documentaries, and I skimmed through "Mein Kampf" at one stage. Finally I looked at a few online articles which on this very subject and then there is quite a nice book/audiobook, that you can get on youtube called "Nietzsche and the Nazis" by Stephen Hicks, for anyone interested. The last in the list is evidently what inspired me to write this.

 

I'll finish by saying that an extreme generalization of how Nietzsche became associated with the Nazis is down to some of his most used quotes being twisted and taken out of context, by the nazis, in the form of propaganda and also by people who simply have only looked at his work and not looked into his work. Another element to this, and again I am over simplifying this, is to say that TSZ is far more suitable, that is, criptic and ambiguous and there many quotes from this which the nazis used,  while they ignored/purposely hid a lot of what was said in The Gay Science, which addresses the Germen people, in a negative way, and shows admiration for the Jews.

His idea of power was completely changed by the Nazis, it was used in a much more literal sence, as is the case with many of his misused phrases,'the blonde beast' being another one. Despite this, I cannot help but feel that there are elements to his philosophy which would permit the nazi ideoligy.

 

I could ramble on for ages, but that would take ages! So I end with a couple of questions for you.

 

1. To what extent was Nietzsche a Nazi, or even, how much of the Nazi idealogy was compatible with that of Nietzsche's?                 

2. (This more so out of personal interest, I think it is difficult to say) Was Nietzsche a full on individualist? and if you could give reasons that would be great.

 

Sorry for any misspellings, or bad grammer, I've enough of that with college work, truly, I just couldn't be bothered.

Thanks in advance for reading, I'm looking forward to having even one or two fellow philosophy enthusiasts on the forums, be great to hear from you.  

 

Peace and Love to all. Be lucky.

 

Levy.



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#2 Flaco Jimenez

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:22 AM

grammar. 

 

Also Hitler was a perfect example of will to power. 

 

But props on making it through Nietzsche. 

 

The mere idea makes my eyes bleed. 


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#3 BOUD1CCA

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:25 AM

He actually wrote a full length work "The Gay Science"?

 

Does Panis know about this??

 

And speaking about Hitler & will;  I admit, I enjoyed " Triumph of the Will".  German filmakers really are the best - forgetting about Nazis (& I don't really think she was) Leni Riefenstahl was many years before her time.



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 07:23 AM

He actually wrote a full length work "The Gay Science"?

 

Does Panis know about this??

 

Unfortunately it is citing gay as in happy, not homosexuality.


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#5 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:15 AM

He actually wrote a full length work "The Gay Science"?

 

Does Panis know about this??

 

And speaking about Hitler & will;  I admit, I enjoyed " Triumph of the Will".  German filmakers really are the best - forgetting about Nazis (& I don't really think she was) Leni Riefenstahl was many years before her time.

 

Wasn't it a German who filmed 'the first cut is always the deepest'?

 

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And of course Jimmy won't know that Triumph of the will was not a film about an obese guy going three hours without a meal.


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#6 Flaco Jimenez

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:25 PM

National Socialism is the only way forward. 

 

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#7 Releasethe Krakken

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 02:37 PM

Unfortunately it is citing gay as in happy, not homosexuality.

gay was always a gay word.  think it always meant acting like a fagget panis


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#8 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 03:21 PM

gay was always a gay word.  think it always meant acting like a fagget panis

 

You have to forgive krakken, his real name is Billy and he has down syndrome. Genuine true story.


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#9 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 03:22 PM

National Socialism is the only way forward. 

 

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Now if only you could walk occasionally then you might not be such a fat ass ;)


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#10 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 10:09 PM

This thread needs a self harmer...who has also been in and out of psychiatric hospitals...WHERE IS BOUD1CCA WHEN YOU NEED HER?

 

 

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 08:41 AM

gay was always a gay word.  think it always meant acting like a fagget panis

 

I guess the ignore function isn't working today.


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#12 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 08:54 AM

I guess the ignore function isn't working today.

 

He blocks and unblocks all our posts to read them. His best one was replying to a random number I added in the countdown thread then realising and editing his post. I saw it though didn't I Billy? I don't know why he is ignoring you though your posts are pretty tame to be honest. Wankaleo the multi is the same and has quoted posts after he blocked me. There really is some fucking morons in these forums.


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#13 Flaco Jimenez

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:12 AM

 There really is some fucking morons in these forums.

 

Pot meet kettle. 


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#14 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:39 AM

Pot meet kettle. 

 

Making dinner and a pot noodle no doubt you fat bastard :P


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:18 AM

Wankaleo!! he made my name into WANKaleo.  This is the first time anybody has been able to do this.  My God, is there no end to grandpa's genius.

Sadly of course its a well known fact that this petty ability is the very first one that young trolls learn - they would have it down pat before they go to kindergarten (even if there were any kindergartens open after the Germans probably bombed them all in WW2.  Also grandpa's parents were probably as shitty at parenting as graamps was - that sort of thing is passed on between loser generations.

 

I have not blocked your posts grandpa, I said I was going to, but just could not be bothered.  I sort of skim over them because 99% is repetitive crap & comments that belong in infant school.

I only look for unintentional humour, where you have inadvertently made a fool of yourself again & really dumb spelling mistakes.  They are sometimes humerous don't you think?

 

And it is obviously pissing you off, my skill in multieng hey :)  better than yours even.  I might get all my multies to form a political party called "Hugh Jardon is a Wanker" party and see if we can get you elected - and then we would all vote to impeach you for your perversions.  Now that would be fun.

 

However, I am finding that I have a life - and cannot stay online here as long as you seem to be able to.  In fact I am exhausted in operating all my multies getting them to go around & spread lies & crap about you.  I am finding people tend to believe them because so many people (all me u retard ROFL) are saying them. 



#16 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:30 AM

Wankaleo!! he made my name into WANKaleo.  This is the first time anybody has been able to do this.  My God, is there no end to grandpa's genius.

Sadly of course its a well known fact that this petty ability is the very first one that young trolls learn - they would have it down pat before they go to kindergarten (even if there were any kindergartens open after the Germans probably bombed them all in WW2.  Also grandpa's parents were probably as shitty at parenting as graamps was - that sort of thing is passed on between loser generations.

 

I have not blocked your posts grandpa, I said I was going to, but just could not be bothered.  I sort of skim over them because 99% is repetitive crap & comments that belong in infant school.

I only look for unintentional humour, where you have inadvertently made a fool of yourself again & really dumb spelling mistakes.  They are sometimes humerous don't you think?

 

And it is obviously pissing you off, my skill in multieng hey :)  better than yours even.  I might get all my multies to form a political party called "Hugh Jardon is a Wanker" party and see if we can get you elected - and then we would all vote to impeach you for your perversions.  Now that would be fun.

 

However, I am finding that I have a life - and cannot stay online here as long as you seem to be able to.  In fact I am exhausted in operating all my multies getting them to go around & spread lies & crap about you.  I am finding people tend to believe them because so many people (all me u retard ROFL) are saying them. 

 

HOLY SHIT I HAVE SPOTTED A CLONE!!!

 

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#17 Flaco Jimenez

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 12:03 PM

HOLY SHIT I SPOTTED A MASSIVE FAGGET. 


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#18 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 12:09 PM

HOLY SHIT I SPOTTED A MASSIVE FAGGET. 

 

HOLY SHIT I SPOTTED JABBA THE HUTT!!!

 

No seriously you are morbidly obese and should diet Jimmy :(


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#19 Releasethe Krakken

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 12:40 PM

actually i did  temporarily unblock panis .  oooh and dr touchy seems very much hurt by me blocking him.  poor dr touchy mcfagget


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#20 Dr Hugh Jardon

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 12:43 PM

actually i did  temporarily unblock panis .  oooh and dr touchy seems very much hurt by me blocking him.  poor dr touchy mcfagget

 

Billy doesn't like war. Billy says people get hurt. Billy likes it when everyone is happy. So do we Billy. So do we.

 

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