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#1 Gucio

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:29 PM

After the release of the last update about the Concessions a lot of questions have been asked. As we are getting closer to to the update going live, we wanted to answer the most frequently asked questions we have collected. You can find more details about the update and what’s changing here.

 

Clarifications about the new Determination rules.

Q: We will have same determination in RW's and direct battles? The determination will be assigned to a Region or a Country? Will it stay the same after Day 3929?
 

Premise:
Country A occupies Region Z of Country B for 250 days.

Country B liberates the region with 6x Resistance War Determination (250/250 days of occupation).


Scenario 1: Country A attacks Region Z of Country B via MPP/direct battle immediately

Country B will have ~5.9x Defensive Battle Determination.


Scenario 2: Country B attacks Country A via MPP/direct battle

Country B will have zero Offensive Battle Determination.


Scenario 3: Region Z has been free for 8 days. Country A attacks Region Z.

Region Z will have ~4x Defensive Battle Determination.


Scenario 4: Region Z has been free for more than 20 days. Country A attacks Region Z.

Region Z will have zero Defensive Battle Determination.

Country A conquers Region Z.

Resistance War Determination is once again calculated based on the number of days Country A held that region over the last 250 days.

Determination will be lower than last time, but not by much, since only 20/250 days of freedom have been added.

Country B liberates the region with ~5.9x Resistance War Determination (230/250 days of occupation).

Region Z will once again have ~5.9x Defensive Battle Determination versus Country A when attacked via MPP/direct battle.


Scenario 5: Country C attacks Region Z.

(Country C did not occupy Region Z in the past 250+ days.)

Country C will face zero Defensive Battle Determination.

Country C will face zero Resistance War Determination (0/250 days of occupation).

Country B liberates Region Z.

Country A attacks Region Z.

Country A will face Defensive Battle Determination and if it conquers the region will face Resistance War Determination based on days of occupation.


Please note that in these examples we used three different terms for the sake of clarity:

Resistance War Determination, Defensive Battle Determination and Offensive Battle Determination. To illustrate the Defensive determination, it has been added to each region pages.

 

 

 Questions & Answers 


Q: When will the law for resource concessioning become available?

A: The Resource Concession Law is planned to roll out several days before new determination rules become active.


Q: Does determination go down only when region is free or does it go down for Occupier A if Occupier B holds the region?

A: Resistance War Determination will go down for Occupier A for every day it is not occupying the region, thus it will go down in both cases.


Q: Will I rent just one particular resource from a region or do I have to rent every resource in that specific  region? Am I conceding by territory or by specific resource?

A: Territory is not conceded. Concession is done per region and per resource.

In order to rent all the resources in a region (let’s assume 3), 3 different concession laws will have to be passed.


Q: What about dictatorship? Will the determination slowly decay after a successful revolution or be instantly reset?

A: Dictatorship Determination is not affected by this update.

 

Q: What happens when the country renting a resource also occupies the territory that the resource belongs?  Do they get 100% of the rented resource and 50% of the other resources on the territory or does everything go down to 50%, assuming no border.

A: You cannot concession resources to/from countries you are at war with, nor can you give into concession resources from conquered regions.


Q: Does Natural Enemy or an Active War affect the concession between the countries?

A: Yes, they do. You cannot have good Trading Relations with hostile countries.


Q: Will the concession with Country A be dropped after a Natural Enemy or Declare a War law has passed?

A: Yes


Q: What will happen when a country does not have enough funds to pay for the concession?

A: The concession will be dropped.


Q: Can concession law be proposed between countries with either: an active Trade Embargo, Natural Enemy or a War?

A: No.


Q: How is GDP calculated?
A: Gross Domestic Product is calculated based on manufactured goods * average price. The GDP is country specific.


Q: What is the resource concession limit?

A: A country cannot take more than 3 resources in concession at any given time.
 

Q: Is the concession limit applied to the country which owns the region or the country which receives the concession?

A: The concession limit is applied to the receiving country. As an example, France can give in concession all of its food resources, but France will only be able to receive 3 resources from other countries.


Q: Can the Concession Fee be affected by any other circumstances?

A: Yes, the Concession Fee will be affected by Tribute to other countries (which occupy their core regions) AND Dictatorship Upkeep. Eg: If a country under dictatorship rents a resource for which it has a 100,000 daily fee, dictatorship upkeep will consume half of the amount destined for the treasury.

 

 

Later Edit / Notes by Dev.NUL:

 

@Exalted Druid

Tribute refers to the Taxation Of Occupied Regions

https://forum.erepub...cupied-regions/

 

@vladb

Q: Country A attacks Country C in Region Z. Will Country A face determination? 

A:  Defensive Battle Determination will only apply to Country B, the original owner of the region.



#2 n0s3

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:33 PM

uwu



#3 Hefesto523

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:39 PM

Thank you so much \o/

#4 Mixliarder

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:43 PM

I think we all need a change and this one is very interesting.

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Edited by Mixliarder, 14 August 2018 - 02:01 PM.


#5 Exalted Druid

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 04:54 PM

Q: Can the Concession Fee be affected by any other circumstances?

A: Yes, the Concession Fee will be affected by Tribute to other countries

 

 

What is Tribute? A wiki search brings back zero results. 

 

 

(edit)

Tribute you demand or give for peace? That is in gold as I recall so would no be affected as rent is in CC. 


Edited by Exalted Druid, 14 August 2018 - 05:12 PM.

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#6 Gucio

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 08:09 PM

Q: Can the Concession Fee be affected by any other circumstances?
A: Yes, the Concession Fee will be affected by Tribute to other countries


What is Tribute? A wiki search brings back zero results.


(edit)
Tribute you demand or give for peace? That is in gold as I recall so would no be affected as rent is in CC.

By Tribute it refers to contributions IE dictatorship upkeep.

 

Correction:

Tribute refers to the Taxation Of Occupied Regions

https://forum.erepub...cupied-regions/



#7 Trico

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:42 PM

Q: Does Natural Enemy or an Active War affect the concession between the countries?

A: Yes, they do. You cannot have good Trading Relations with hostile countries.

 

UK currently has Ukraine (MPP Partner) Vs Latvia listed as an active war on our country page.

 

This would mean that we would not be able to obtain a concession from Latvia?



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Posted 15 August 2018 - 02:37 PM

“Scenario 5: Country C attacks Region Z.
(Country C did not occupy Region Z in the past 250+ days.)”
Country A attacks Country C in Region Z. Will Country A face determination?

#9 OMR.Ding

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:51 AM

I seen the sentence in update, but I really didn't know what time can get it.

 

Considering the disruptive potential of the changes all the players will be allowed a one time free relocation of their companies and holdings.



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 01:28 PM

 

Q: Can the Concession Fee be affected by any other circumstances?

A: Yes, the Concession Fee will be affected by Tribute to other countries

 

 

What is Tribute? A wiki search brings back zero results. 

 

 

Tribute refers to the Taxation Of Occupied Regions

https://forum.erepub...cupied-regions/



#11 Dev.NUL

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 01:38 PM

I seen the sentence in update, but I really didn't know what time can get it.

 

Relocation will begin on day 3,926

https://www.erepubli...t-updates/0/309


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Posted 17 August 2018 - 01:52 PM

Relocation will begin on day 3,926

https://www.erepubli...t-updates/0/309

 

 

How did we get the full refund? I think this is very important. Just only dissolve?


Edited by OMR.Ding, 17 August 2018 - 02:11 PM.


#13 Gucio

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 04:00 PM

How did we get the full refund? I think this is very important. Just only dissolve?

You will only get a full refund when dissolving your holding company.



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 09:44 PM

Ok

#15 Thedillpickl

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 11:32 PM

I'm concerned that tying concession to GDP will cause extra work because owner cannot just set price as is now done. Will we have to make huge donations to the rentor to make it reasonable? Why not just have a text box which would be "We allow this resource to abc country for xyz cc.". In other words, let diplomats do their job and negotiate price.

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 07:06 AM

Will i be able to dissolve all my holdings? what will hapen with companies in the disolved holdings? will they go to the "unasigned companies" or i will have to push all of them to other holding in order to dissolve the one not needed? and will this count as the free relocation even though it would actualy be company storage till the moment i decide where to put my new holdings?

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 02:15 PM

>>A: Gross Domestic Product is calculated based on manufactured goods * average price. The GDP is country specific.

 

Are average product prices country-specific or average world prices will be used?



#18 cumcumcuma

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 04:57 PM

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#19 LIKE A B0SS

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 09:52 PM

Q: How is GDP calculated?

A: Gross Domestic Product is calculated based on manufactured goods * average price. The GDP is country specific.

 

Are raw materials counted as goods? 

How is average price calculated? 


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#20 Mr. Indigo

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:53 PM

Can someone explain how the determination for the region when it is attacked is calculated?

 

Right now I see several brazilian regions with no determination while being attacked by Argentina, but 1.6 or so for resistance wars against the same country.






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