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Poll: Economy changes

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Would you like that minimum salary be applied automatically? (all salaries lower than a new voted minimum salary will be increased to the new value)

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Would you like donations of goods to be disabled? (no more food, weapons and ticket donations)

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#21 costin1989

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:18 PM

what about helping friends with some food or weapons? it's not fair my opinion.

you can donate money and they can buy what they need from marketplace. or you can donate them, but the VAT is collected from sender in this case.



#22 Frukts

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:21 PM

Buying and selling isnt only "transaction", there is also support transaction for example MU members, if you have idea to also implement working "support" sgstem by not violating your proposed option go a head. I couldnt imagine it working both ways.

#23 costin1989

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:32 PM

Buying and selling isnt only "transaction", there is also support transaction for example MU members, if you have idea to also implement working "support" sgstem by not violating your proposed option go a head. I couldnt imagine it working both ways.

 

why the MU support should be done without paying taxes? Do you want to work for free for you MU? Then just donate the salary back. Or maybe your Congress will keep the minimum salary to 1 cc, there is no problem with that, but what i want to say is that the game mechanics do not allow Congress to create a real economical environment. The only tax which you can play at this point is Work Tax and raw materials import tax. Other taxes could be removed, there will be no difference.


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#24 Frukts

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:34 PM

Also what would we gain from this ? Equaly unproductive economy. Sure we can make small steps to improve game. But only people who gain from this are factory owners and country who have already have a lot of cc and gold. What about those small players who barrly can afford to buy tanks? What will they gain from this ? Even higher prices? When i think of it more my No is becoming more like Hard No :) Anyway happy to see people talking about issues i hope you dont loose your "fire".

#25 Frukts

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:50 PM

Root of your issue is unprofitable factorys. Something similar in real life with oil. Some companys have to reduce theyr production simple becouse there is overproduction in market and prices are on merge when its not profitable same as our situation. How to fix it, reduce production, but if you reduce production you cant be sure others will. Its not like IRL you can make deals with organizations bla bla bla. Also there is wages. Which will fall after job space reduction. So many variablees....Admins should implement default "Profit" so everyone is happy.


Edited by Frukts, 30 January 2017 - 05:10 PM.


#26 Andr3iu

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 11:37 PM

Disable donations of goods ONLY if you increase limit of gold send&sell or buy per/day.

This shoul be in te pool.

And other will be the results.



#27 Alegretto

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 05:01 AM

dar cand cineva angajeaza lucratori pe 1 RON, ti se pare ca plateste la fel de mult ca unul care angajeaza lucratori pe 220 RON? (nu vorbim work as manager aici, ci de lucratori pe 1 leu) 

nu ti se pare competitie neloiala?

Competitia niciodata nu poate fi loiala, este o contradictie in termeni. Pentru simplul motiv ca spun astia aberatia asta la televizor, nu trebuie sa o preluam si noi.
Nu mi se pare in nici un fel, fiecare se descurca cum poate, asta e si frumusetea jocului. Altfel, jocul devine rigid si neatractiv.
Era senzationala versiunea initiala a jocului in care alergai sa-ti faci angajati loiali si intre timp, angajai tot felul de indivizi care-ti luau banii fara sa lucreze si se roiau... trebuia tot timpul sa fii atent. Si eu eram atent, eram unul dintre cei mai buni in angajari.

Acum jocul e fleasca. Nu poti face mai nimic cu firmele. Esti doar masa de manevra pentru guvern.
Nici cu Congresul nu mai poti face nimic. tot masa de manevra este.
 

Daca as fi avut clone, nimic din toate astea nu mai era atractiv. Jocul cu clone este tampit in primul rand pentru cel care il practica. Dar strica jocul si celorlalti, asa este.


Edited by Alegretto, 31 January 2017 - 05:04 AM.


#28 costin1989

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 05:18 AM

Competitie loială înseamnă să plecăm cu toții de la aceleași reguli, și să se aplice același reguli pt toată lumea.

În momentul în care ai posibilitatea sa schimbi salariul minim dar acesta nu se aplica decât noilor angajați mi se pare că este concurență neloială.

Ar putea foarte bine să scoată acel mecanism pt că în acest moment este inutil.

Eu nu am acuzat problema de fond. Salariul minim poate va rămâne 1cc, eu am acuzat mecanica jocului că nu îți dă posibilitatea să faci ceva cu acel salariu minim.

#29 pista2

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 06:24 AM

SA PUNA TAXA SI PE CURSUL VALUTAR, 


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#30 costin1989

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 07:28 AM

Disable donations of goods ONLY if you increase limit of gold send&sell or buy per/day.

This shoul be in te pool.

And other will be the results.

 why to increase the gold send limit? you need cc to buy goods from market, not gold. and the limit for cc is infinite :)



#31 Musatinu

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 07:48 AM

SA PUNA TAXA SI PE CURSUL VALUTAR, 

SĂ PUNĂ TAXĂ ȘI PE DMG-ul DAT :D


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#32 costin1989

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 08:17 AM

SĂ PUNĂ TAXĂ ȘI PE DMG-ul DAT :D

deja exista taxa pe damage-ul dat :) 



#33 death_cell

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 01:19 PM

I think there are more important things to change that those 2 options. For example, people with Tycoon pack get +20% of profit with their production, so they can up salaries over other people without Tycoon, who has to stop producing.

 

About the salary, the minimum salary of spain is 1cc, so the first change wouldnt have effect. And I think any country will rise minimun salary to 160 (for example), because there are lot of organization (like MUs) which produce in a cooperative way to theirself.

 

About the second, the donations are something neccesary for MUs, or when we have to help new players. It´s true that you can donate goods to people from another country (and no pay 99% tax import). But really there are no profit in the company mode, and no donations would be another problem more for lot of people.

 

Anyway, i keep on thinking that we cant try to manage any little problem in this module, when we have a Pack which give +20% productivity (and tickets) to some people, who can pay more salary or down prices, f**ing the rest of people.

 

Another big change would be the work as a manager, but i think working as a manager is neccesary for the actual eR military mode. Some people fight more than people can produce in general (moreover weaps), so eR wont be able to manage that excesive demand of some products with a limited production. 

So I think this problem goes farer than the economy.



#34 iupuias

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 03:38 PM

deja exista taxa pe damage-ul dat :)

exista taxa doar pe medalia de tp.



#35 costin1989

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:46 AM

exista taxa doar pe medalia de tp.

si pe CO, se aplica WorkTax



#36 Waruda

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:47 AM

English please, I voted no on both.




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